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Has Donahoe Succeeded in Remaking eBay?

An article written by Douglas MacMillan in CRM Daily, titled “eBay’s Last Minute Delivery Push” published December 24th 2009 caught my attention. CRM Daily is an e-publication delivering “Customer Relationship Management news for Pros”.

Here is the ‘hook’:

“eBay’s expansion into selling new products has brought in more customers who expect cheap, fast delivery; flexible return policies; and attentive customer support. Those have been tough demands for the company to achieve, and could be affecting the site’s popularity. In November, eBay’s online visitors dropped by eight percent.”

In my opinion eBay could use some CRM tips because their philosophy under current CEO John Donahoe is to channel Rhett Butler in Gone With The Wind; “Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn” as seasoned sellers look for the exits. eBay is clueless and indifferent (def. #1) when it comes to Customer Relationship Management, but I digress.

Off Target

The implied frame of reference for the article is that eBay is the seller, not “only a venue” for sales by independent retailers. It posits (def.#2) buyers as eBay’s customers, and sellers as merely eBay’s suppliers. This causes a dilemma (def.#2) in that any eBay CRM program targeting the consumer will not target the customer; the one who pays fees to eBay. A sampling of key phrases that support my contention are:

  • order-fulfillment problems bedeviling eBay
  • eBay doesn’t have as tight a control of its supply chain as rivals
  • eBay’s expansion into selling new products

Another quote in the article would appear to indicate that the perception of eBay as retailer is becoming much more widespread.

“They started as an auction site, but they are now seen by most people as a retailer,” says Larry Freed, CEO of market researcher ForeSee Results.

The Heart of the Issue

Mr MacMillan compares eBay’s performance as retailer with Amazon and to a lesser degree with WalMart. There are deep flaws in the comparison.

Unlike Amazon which started as a retailer before permitting third-party merchants (3P) on the site, eBay has never had product to sell, never sourced, listed, picked, packed or shipped. eBay is not a retailer, without 3Ps eBay has no product to sell.

Like eBay, Amazon claims the transaction, in other words the buyer is Amazon’s. A major difference between the platforms is that Amazon takes responsibility for the transaction, offering an A - Z guarantee to the buyer, while verifying the buyer and processing payment for the seller. All Amazon buyers are verified, there is no sale without payment, the Non Paying Buyer (NPB) does not exist.

eBay disavows any responsibility and has maintained for years that it is only a venue and is therefore not responsible for the items bought or sold on its site. Liability is passed to the seller and eBay’s role is limited to collecting fees from them at every opportunity, including for unconsummated transactions, the ones in which sellers do not get paid.

Amazon clearly delineates the expectations and obligations of a partnership, a relationship that is characterized by mutual cooperation, responsibility and benefit. eBay prefers a punishment based authoritarian and adversarial relationship with 3Ps, clearly shown by secret search algorithms and an unnecessarily complex fee to listing structure which intentionally makes it very difficult for sellers to calculate costs and predict margins.

Finally, Amazon spells out realistic time frame expectations for buyers to receive their purchases. A seller who can deliver faster has a happy customer and so does Amazon. eBay doesn’t have a clue and the result is everyone is mad at each other.

Crystal Ball Department

Salute to a master, Randy Smythe said it in 2007. So far, I would say he called it exactly right.

Has Donahoe succeeded in remaking eBay?
What is the new eBay?

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Amazon vs eBay

Today eBay will release Q4-08 earnings at 5pm EST. As I write, stock is trading at $12.89 up .34c from yesterday’s close at $12.55. A year ago today eBay traded at $26.83. eBay has been preparing the market for less than optimal results all through the quarter with gloom and doom announcements and pronouncements and they want you to know it is all due to the economy.

I have never understood why a stock which has never paid a dividend goes up before quarterly results, maybe someone wiser than I in the ways of Wall Street will enlighten me.

Amazon will release Q4-08 results January 29th. In sharp contrast to eBay, Amazon did their little annual crow, yes they do it every year right after Christmas, about this holiday season being the “Best Ever!”.

Amazon of course is operating in a different economy to eBay.

Yesterday Compete’s Corporate Blog was amazingly informative. Compete is a web measurement service.

Like its namesake river, Amazon continues its steady assault on everything in its path. In December, Amazon was once again the top online retailer…by a mile (excluding auction site eBay). Amazon’s December traffic surged 20% year-over-year, outpacing Target.com and Walmart.com’s respective 16% and 15% growth. In contrast, eBay’s December traffic (~80 million unique visitors) remained flat for the third consecutive year.

Blogger Matt Pace’s research showed that Amazon’s visitor share jumped to 39% in December, up 18% from the previous year. He states

Amazon’s gains were a result of not only attracting more consumers to its site, but also getting them to come back more often.

Mr Pace attributes Amazon’s figures to Amazon Prime and I think he is right. If Amazon would fix it so as to offer a downgraded from FedEx Two Day to Priority Mail service to Alaska and Hawaii it would be unconquerable. To me the most ominous mention was this:

“I would not be surprised to see rivals experiment this year with similar programs in hopes of countering Amazon’s growing clout. As pressure mounts on retailers, developing strategies to counter Amazon’s new “ace in the hole” will be key to their ability to continue to attract, engage and retain the best online shoppers.”

eBay has been doing a monkey see on Amazon for the last couple of years, and with their transcendent talent for not quite getting it right, I can’t help but wonder first how they are going to translate Amazon Prime to eBay and second how badly the top floor PowerPoint whiz kids can botch (def.#4 or is that #6) it.

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